From Oregon's House Bill 3200 (Oregon's Proposed "Assault Weapon's Ban); Section 4, Paragraph 5:
(5) A registered owner of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine is required to:
(a) Securely store the assault weapon or large capacity magazine pursuant torules and regulations adopted by the department;
(b) Allow an inspector from the department to inspect the storage of assault weapons and large capacity magazines to ensure compliance with this subsection;
(c) Possess the assault weapon or large capacity magazine only:
(A) On property owned or immediately controlled by the registered owner;
(B) On the premises of a firearms dealer or gunsmith licensed under 18 U.S.C. 923 for the purpose of lawful repair;
(C) While engaged in the legal use of the assault weapon or large capacity magazine at a public or private shooting range, shooting gallery or other area designed and built for the purpose of target shooting; or
(D) While transporting the weapon in a vehicle as permitted in ORS 166.250; and
Two issues are immediately apparent here ... quite apart from the obvious Second Amendment:
Subsection (b) is in violation of the Fourth Amendment of the constitution:
Subsection (c)(B) requires licensing of ANYONE who works on your firearm or your magazine outside of your home.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The "inspector" would need a search warrant. This bill would place your home, where you keep your personal firearms, in the same category as an industrial environment where explosives or caustic chemicals are stored. WTF? A 17-round pistol magazine is as dangerous as TNT?
As for licensing gunsmiths ... why? Why can't my friend, who knows more about guns than I do, perform repairs on my AR15? Or my Garand, which (if I understand the definition of "assault weapon" would also be classified as an "Assault Weapon"? Or fix my 17-round pistol magazine, for that matter? This is analogous to requiring that my cousin be licensed before he can fix my car under the spreading chestnut tree in his back yard. This, in the country which once lauded "The Village Smithy"?
We don't need no stinkin' license. This is America, dammit.
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Okay, so much for constitutional issues and unreasonable governmental regulation of trade.
There's one more line that I want to bring up: Section 4, paragraph 4:
(4) A person may not register more than one assault weapon and three large capacity magazines under this section. Additional assault weapons and large capacity magazines must be disposed of in the manner specified in section 3 of this 2013 Act.
Well. Isn't that special?
I carry three (or four) magazines for my Limited gun, and the same for my Open gun. Different calibers, they require different magazines. So, even though my Limited gun would NOT be an "Assault Weapon" and my Open gun MAY not be, I still can't choose which division I want to compete in because I just plain can't own that many magazines.
Don't tell me I don't "need" them; when I shoot my Beloved Kimber at a match, I have six or eight single-stack magazines on my belt, because when you have limited magazine capacity you often have to reload every time you move, dropping a magazine which still has ammunition left in it. Standing Reloads are not competitive, and they are embarrassing. Worse, when you have a jam and drop a full or almost full magazine, you "need" to have more magazines that you might have expected.
I'm a Grumpy Old Man. At my age, I don't need the irritation of a bunch of leotard nit-wits screwing with one of the few pleasures left to me: I can't sing, my woman is gone, and I already drink more than is good for me. Now they want me to hang up my guns?
This whole Registration/Confiscation/Class B Felony thing pisses me off. Who do these yahoos think they are, telling me I can't play with guns?
What a bunch of maroons.
Excuse me, I need to go replace the duct-tape wrapped around my head. And pour myself a drink, while I cool off.
The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor’s brief statement of the essential features of the measure as introduced.
Creates crime of unlawful possession or transfer of assault weapon or large capacity magazine. Punishes by maximum penalty of 10 years’ imprisonment, $250,000 fine, or both. Requires current owners to dispose of or register assault weapons and large capacity magazines. Directs Department of State Police to conduct background checks and maintain registry of assault weapons and large capacity magazines. Declares emergency, effective on passage.
owners of "high-capacity" magazines and/or "Assault Weapons) must dispose of them either by selling (to a dealer who also must not possess this "bad stuff")
.or or turning them over to a governmental agency (without compensation)
or 'rendering (them) inoperable
or "registering" it/them.
And of course, after registration comes confiscation.
DEFINITIONS:
Assault Weapon: whatever we say it is Hi Capacity Magazine: whatever we say it is (so far: 10 rounds)
Actually, the provisions of this bill are nothing new at all at all at all. See "1994 Assault Weapons Ban". (NOTE: A Wikipedia link. As much as I am loath to accept Wikipedia as an authoritative resource, I'm inclined to cite them if only because their articles are subject to review by contributors with 'opinions' which may not directly agree with those of the original authors.)
Here's the Washington Post's take on the effectiveness of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban .. essentially, they think it was A Good Idea, but ten years was just not sufficient time to properly evaluate the laudable effects of the law.
Factcheck (an Annenberg project) strongly implies that the 1994 ban on assault weapons showed a lowered risk by "assault weapons" but it was offset by crimes involving "hi-capacity magazines".
A number of factors—including the fact that the banned weapons and magazines were rarely used to commit murders in this country, the limited availability of data on the weapons, other components of the Crime Control Act of 1994, and State and local initiatives implemented at the same time—posed challenges in discerning the effects of the ban. The ban appears to have had clear short-term effects on the gun market, some of which were unintended consequences: production of the banned weapons increased before the law took effect, and prices fell afterward. This suggests that the weapons became more available generally, but they must have become less accessible to criminals because there was at least a short-term decrease in in criminal use of the banned weapons.
[emphasis added]Note that the comment "prices fell afterward" doesn't mean that prices fell after the ban took effect; it refers to the fact that prices fell after the "SUNSET CLAUSE" in the original bill took effect in 2004! As for the comment that "...they must have become less accessible to criminals..."; that strikes me as especially facetious, in that criminals have always had access to banned items. That IS their Job Description!
Authors and co-signatories of the bill are: (Representative GREENLICK; Representatives BAILEY, BUCKLEY, DEMBROW, FREDERICK, READ, REARDON, TOMEI, Senators BURDICK, DINGFELDER, HASS, MONNES ANDERSON, MONROE, SHIELDS, STEINER HAYWARD)
I've written to MY state representative. If you live in Oregon, I suggest you do the same.
Perhaps you'll manage to sound less outraged than I did.
UPDATE: February 25, 2013
I received a response from my state representative at 06:20 am this morning:
Thank you for your letter about HB 3200. I am not one of the
co-sponsors of the bill and I do not serve on a committee that considers
gun related bills, so I have not had time to look at it carefully since
it was introduced on Friday. It is my understanding that gun bills are
unlikely to receive hearings this session. In the event the bill does
come out of committee, I will remember your concerns as I evaluate the
bill in its final format.
Thanks again for writing.
Sincerely, Sara
Representative Sara Gelser Chair, House Education Committee House District 16 (Corvallis/Philomath) (503) 986-1416 rep.saragelser@state.or.us
It happens every now and then, and I usually ignore it completely. I get another version of "The Nigerian Letter" (the "419" scam) inviting me to give them sufficient information for them to find, and raid, my bank account.
Here's the full text of the letter, FYI:
Attention: Respondent,
I am currently attempting to acquaint myself with your family history in order to make you the heir suitable to inherit the estate of our customer( now deceased) because you bear the same last name with our late customer. I want you to partner with me and receive this fund in your account.
During the course of our auditing, I discovered a floating fund ($11.5m) in an account opened in the bank in 1999 and since then nobody has operated on this account that belongs to this our late Customer who hailed From your country hereinafter referred to as our customer who worked as contractor with Chevron/Texaco an oil magnate in my country and was killed as a result of an attack from Niger Delta Militants.
Hence, we are currently handling a high valued financial portfolio of our late customer who clearly shares your last name and it was recommended that I contact you. In looking for a suitable heir apparent to our late customer, I am specifically interested in the following information:
1. Your full names (no initials pls.) 2. Your Contact address. 3. Your Telephone and Fax number. 4. Your Date of Birth: 5. Your Current Occupation.
Could you please send me the information I have requested, along with any other information about you or your family history that might be relevant? I need to make an important decision fairly soon about the administration of his estate on intestacy, so please send me the information at your first opportunity today. Contact us for more detailed information about this case.
Thank you for your assistance.
Sincerely, Mr. Chris David.
---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Essentially, this complete stranger expects me to provide sufficient information that he can at least made a 'good effort' to discover my Social Security Number. That, with my full legal name and current address, along with my DOB, might be sufficient to access my SSN account along with any other 'fiduciary' accounts I have.
I know you can't easily read the screen-shot of the original email, so here's the information about the sender:
SENT BY: "Audit / Account Department" REPLY TO:hrisdavide110@yahoo.com.hk
The first thing to notice (and a give-away that it's bogus, if you didn't already notice) is that the reply email address isn't the same as the "from" email address.
Sigh.
Also, email does not directly cite either my name or my email address ... another sign that it's a 'mass email'. Most of the information requested does not seem necessary. The email address to which the prospectus was sent does not include my family name, and never has, so the author couldn't know MY last name. How would he have matched me to the supposed deceased relative?
It's all just bogus, free-lance larceny, and we all benefit from any pressure we can apply to these predatory bastards.
HOW TO COMBAT INTERNET FRAUD:
I know I've talked about this before, here. In accordance with my "Bad Example" life experiences, I once again present this warning that if you EVER get an email like this, do what I did: forward it to the FBI. Their "Common Fraud Schemes" website will help you to find the best way to do that. Look under the sub-heading:
Tips for Avoiding Nigerian Letter or “419” Fraud:
Just find the link to "... contact your nearest FBI office ... " and get the email address. Don't delay, do it today!
If nothing else, you may get an email from the FBI, and won't THAT be exciting!
NOTE: If you're one of those people whose priority is to "fly low", you may choose not to report the email. On the other hand, if you are really "maintaining a low internet profile", you probably won't receive one of these emails, anyway.
A couple of nights before, it occurred to me to look at all the cards in my wallet to see if I need to renew any of them: driver's license, credit cards, library card, Costco card, and ... Concealed Handgun License (CHL).
Oh dear! My CHL expired in November of last year!
This only goes to show how much importance I put on it. I monitor my credit cards and their associated accounts constantly, but when is the last time I looked closely at my CHL?
A little background is required: I originally applied for it because I frequently carry firearms in my car. Without a CHL, I'm not sure what my legal obligations are. If I casually toss my range-bag in the back seat of the car, it's conceivably within reach. And there's always ammo in the bag, if not loaded in either the magazines or the gun itself. Am I violating a law? I don't know, from one year to the next.
So I applied for, and eventually received, a CHL. No more worries. Even a gun in my car fall (under certain circumstances) as a "Concealed Handgun", I'm covered. I actually renewed the five-year license before it expired last time, but I fear I have become complacent since then.
Now that my CHL has expired I find that renewal falls within an entirely new set of regulations. Here are the five-step list of regulations which I must satisfy before I can renew my license:
Fee: $50. (exact change, or a check for the exact amount)
APPLICATION FORM. Must be completely filled out, legible and signed. IMPORTANT NOTE: If your license has been expired for less than 2 years, you will also need to have two character references complete and sign the “Handgun License Required References” form. If your license has been expired for more than 2 years, you cannot renew, but will need to re-apply for an original license.
NEW REQUIREMENT EFFECTIVE MARCH 1, 2011: PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP. Birth certificate, passport or appropriate INS forms.
PICTURE. A picture of you will be taken when you turn in your completed application.
I don't have any major problem with the fee, or the picture. In fact, I don't have a major problem with the proof of citizenship .. except that I had to provide that to receive the original license, so why do I have to duplicate the effort. Actually, in my state, I had to provide a birth certificate before I could get my driver's license renewed .. wow! This in a state where the Matricula Consular document is accepted in lieu of a 'natural citizen' birth certificate for most business ... including a drivers license! Okay, it's an illogical pain in the ass, but I can do that. (I can't tell you how long ago I originally received my drivers license, but I assure you that my citizenship hasn't changed.)
(On the other hand, I do agree that the criteria for a concealed handgun license should be different from/more stringent than that of getting a drivers license because a drivers license is a right, and toting a gun is only supported by the constitu ..... oh. Never mind. Maybe it's because more people are killed and maimed every year by cars than by ... uh ......)
The only real problem I have is with the need to have Character References. I hate to go around begging for friends to sign a form saying that I'm sane enough to carry a handgun. It's demeaning! If I recall correctly, the original license application was supported by my landlord and the President of the local gun club. They didn't need to provide any documentation about THEIR citizenship, thank goodness!)
I really should have addressed this months ago, but I didn't, and I accept my own responsibility for being too complacent. In the mean time, I can't apply for my renewal until next week, so I have a few days to dig my Birth Certificate Registered Copy out of my files, and print the application forms and all. (Small personal problem, my printer doesn't work; I'll depend on my friends to help me out.)
What this, is ... once again, my life mission seems to be to serve as a bad example for the edification of friends and family. If I had renewed 3 months ago, the process would have been much simpler.
Infidel Bloggers Alliance: Since New York State enacted its restrictive new gun laws, many manufacturers have sent that state (and others) a message: If local governments are going to severely restrict the ability of citizens to own guns, then these companies will not be selling to law enforcement in those areas.
I heard on the Marc Levin show today that firearms manufacturers, in response to state and local infringements on citizens, are increasingly refusing to sell or service, or provide ammunition to, Law Enforcement departments in localities which curtail the rights of their CITIZENS to the same access to firearms and ammunition.
This is "not-quite-breaking-news"; apparently this is a trend which has being ongoing for several days, and I only heard about it this afternoon.
It's also "not-quite-breaking-news" in that nearly seven years ago (april, 2005) we reported here that Ronnie Barrett had refused to service his .50 caliber rifles which he had previously sold to the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) because of that city and county policies.
Has it taken THAT long for the rest of the the firearms manufacturers to wake up and smell the coffee?
I won't even attempt to provide all the links to bloggers and "Main Stream Media" which are reporting this news. You can do the search using such keywords as "police" and "Firearms Manufacturers" and "Refuse". And I encourage you to do so. I only cite The Infidel because he has a nice list of manufacturers who have jumped on the bandwagon (belatedly) ... and by this time, the list is outdated already.
Anti-gun people have been after Firearms Manufacturers for YEARS to force them (unfairly) to take responsibility for misuse by end-users of firearms which have been retailed by dealers under Federal restrictions. And the gun makers have been quiet ... complacent, except in the courts .. in response.
It's about time that these manufacturers, wholesalers and even retailers (such as "Cheaper Than Dirt") took a stand.
I applaud them for their new-found assertiveness. Too long have they played the meek mouse under continuing attacks. I think they should have followed the lead of Barrett Arms years ago, but I won't criticize them because "Hey, it's a business, and you don't offend your customers!"
At last, their customers have offended THEM by the use of double-standards which have affected ... The Business.
Every year, the government has infringed upon the market by threats of federal 'standards' which are both unconstitutional and anti-business. The gun and ammo makers tried to keep it going in the lean years, and when an anti-gun president is elected (or re-elected), the business fail to keep up with demands of new customers. This negatively impacts their ability to serve the needs of their 'regular' customers, as we have seen for the past five years. And this is the same situation which other businesses in America have experienced; they don't have a legitimate 5-year plan, because they don't know which way the President will jump from one year to the next.
Hell, from one month to the next!
I think that ALL businesses in America might take heart by this example. There needs to be an uprising against uncontrolled Federal infringement on business (and, to a lesser degree, at the state level) because of wildcat variances of governmental regulations.
I don't know about you, but I'm tired of paying $50 for a brick (1,000) of primers .. which sold for $85 for a five-brick "Sleeve" (5,000) of primers ten years ago at bulk rates. And you can't even find them in stores at any price! It was two years after Obama's first election before my local Bi-mart would sell me more than 200 primers at a single purchase; their supply simply could not accommodate the demand.
"Americans love a winner, and they will not abide a loser"
So said George S. Patton, at least as he was portrayed in the 1970 movie "Patton".
IPSC competition is a little different.
We don't typify a "loser" as everyone else who doesn't win his/her match, division or class. "Winning is nice" .... but we don't care that much when our friends are concerned.
What we love is someone who runs through a stage and exceeds all expectations. They may win First Place, Second Place, or actually win nothing at all. But when a shooter has an exceedingly good run, those of us who know them and how they usually shoot are joyous if only because they have done 'better that usual:.
Here are three videos from several (okay, 6) years ago which are among my favorites.
First is my favorite lady shooter; SWMBO (She Who Must Be Obeyed) Smith. The title of the video (Witchy Woman)says it all:
*Yes, I have posted this video here before ...and I probably will again. I trashed this stage, but She .. with a borrowed gun, did just fine. Besides, I loved to watch her shoot.*
Finally, the man who actually won a very difficult stage in the same Croc Match, Yon Lee showed us how well he could perform by literally dancing through anup-and-back stage.
I'm hoping that someone will watch these videos, and will be encouraged to try IPSC/USPSA competition themselves. It's a great way to meet new friends who like to shoot pistols as much as you do. And, as a bonus .. there will come a time when you do one stage exactly right. With a little bit of luck, someone will be there with a camera to record your triumph.
Or .. you may never win a stage in your entire life.
( The context of the speech is available in text from the Washington Post, here. NOTE that the context of this "QUOTE" is not the same as the context you will see in this video. It starts earlier in the speech.)
A side note, though: I find it shameful that disagree strongly with the the President who (at about 7"40' into the speech) typifies those who disagree with his solutions as being motivated by personal gratification:
" This will be difficult. There will be pundits and politicians and special interest lobbyists publicly warning of a tyrannical all-out assault on liberty, not because that’s true, but because they want to gin up fear or higher ratings or revenue for themselves. And behind the scenes, they’ll do everything they can to block any commonsense reform and make sure nothing changes whatsoever. ."
[emphasis added]
This isn't mudslinging against a political opponent, but a base canard pointed directly toward those who believe that their vision of the Second Amendment of the Constitution legitimately differs from that of the President.
Well, he's a politician. Remember the old saying from when you were a child?
"I'm rubber, you're glue; whatever you say bounces off me, and sticks to you!"
Not anyone agrees that these talking points provide the "Perfect Solution".
On February 12, 2013, President Obama delivered his annual State of the Union Address, in which he discussed (in part) the issue of Gun Control:
He did not address his specific proposals, but only spoke parenthetically about "Gun Violence":
Our actions will not prevent every senseless act of violence in this country. Indeed, no laws, no initiatives, no administrative acts will perfectly solve all the challenges I’ve outlined tonight. But we were never sent here to be perfect. We were sent here to make what difference we can, to secure this nation, expand opportunity, and uphold our ideals through the hard, often frustrating, but absolutely necessary work of self-government.
I applaud President Obama's tacit admission that enacting random confiscatory laws against firearms possession will not resolve the problems with violence in America. I hope that all Americans will look closely at the various "Gun Control" proposals which are being presented to Congress and to the people of the United states. These proposals are less than a band-aid; they will not change the pattern of violence; they would only exacerbate the problems by penalizing peaceful, honest citizens while doing NOTHING to curb violence, hatred, evil intent and public slaughter of innocents.
For perhaps the first time I agree completely with Mr. Obama. It's not about "Gun Violence", it's about "Violence". It's not about "Gun Control"; in fact, it's not about guns at all.
I don't know who he has been listening to, but I only wish he had started listening years ago. It would not necessarily have made our nation more "peaceful", but it would have allowed us to protect each other more effectively.
In the midst of all the hoo-rah about TCGC (Tri-County Gun Club) policy changes, I have to give credit to their "Tactical Rifle" program.
I've never competed in one of their matches. I'm too wimpy. Well, and it's not an inexpensive sport. Seeing that I'm a much better rifle shot than I am a pistol shooter, I'm sure I would get hooked. And who wants to spend his Saturdays squirming in the mud, lining up at 4" plates at over 500 yards distance? Humph!
Apparently, on the 2nd Saturday of February, 2013, there were 53 hardy souls (not all of them guys) who were willing to do just that. I won't name names (in accordance with my own blogsite policy) without permission expressed or implied by the individuals, but I've been subscribed to their results email list for years. So I DO have the results, and will NOT publish them here. If you shot the match, you know who you are; if you didn't, it's none of your business who were the four bold shooters in the Annual Sniper Match who "took the bait ... and made the shot!" Apparently, the Match Director deliberately included an optional shooting challenge which he knew was too challenging, and even he was impressed by the results.
Maybe I'm not that good a rifle shot, after all. I know I can make that shot at 400 yards (or could 20 years ago ... perhaps ... by accident), but 500 yards is an entirely different kettle of fish and I am SO envious at snipers who can take that shot ... and make it!
If it's not obvious, I'm pretty jazzed up about long-gun shooters who meet and exceed that level of competition. If you think it doesn't take discipline, experience, practice, technical expertise and a lot of sheer guts to do what they do every month, then you're not at all qualified to judge them.
And I wasn't kidding about wallowing in the mud; I've been to their range, I've watched them shoot. That was when I decided that this Tactical Rifle thingie was "Not For Me!"
From another email, not from Columbia Cascade but as a courtesy from a TRI-CO member:
HEADS UP. For those of you that are shooting Tri-county Sunday, AND
ARE NOT MEMBERS, you will NOT be able to get in using the old 6 digit
code.
These codes are no longer being used, so they can keep
non-members that are not with members from entering. Soooooooo, if a
club member has NOT made arrangemnets [sic]to have the EXIT gate OPEN so you
can drive in, you will want to pull to the LEFT and wait until you can
TAILGATE someone inside. This goes for both gates. Once inside you
will be OK to shoot the match. Members can only get in using their
cards now, no more 6 digit codes. This goes for the police as well. The
intent is to issue a match director a one day code that can be used for
that match only, as codes will change daily. The club coordinator will
then issue that code to all particapants in advance. HOW THIS WILL WORK
has not been determined yet. GOOD LUCK, see you Sunday,
"How This Will Work" .. .sounds like a total disaster.
Frankly, I don't understand how a gun club can expect to stay in business if it deliberately makes it difficult for non-members to participate in 'public' matches.
Well ... okay, so they can become a strictly private club, which means that they don't actively encourage non-members to attend their matches. Which, given their current ruling on the "Over The Berm" rule, is beginning to sound suspiciously like a hidden agenda.
Of course, much of their income currently derives from non-member fees at 'public' matches. That seems likely to change, though.
The alternatives are either that their match participation will decline drastically and immediately (leaving them a long-term shortfall in their funding), or they can increase their annual dues. Since these dues are already pretty darned hefty ($225 initiation fee, $170 annual dues)and an NRA membership is mandatory, they may have to work hard to maintain their current membership let alone attract new members.
On the other hand, perhaps they're expecting that non-members will be strongly encouraged to join, given their new policy on gate-admission.
Can anybody who still has a Tri-County Gun Club membership please explain this to me? Just WHO is responsible for this Train Wreck at which was once the premium gun club in the state of Oregon?
This from an email: from the Competition Director of the Section, dated February 15, 2013:
Attention Columbia Cascade Section
shooters,
It is with great sadness I am writing
this message to you all. A program that I have supported for 13 years
is
now gone. The Board at Tri-County is now going to require the Match
Directors to disqualify shooters who violate the muzzle over the berm
rule.
This recent change to the enforcement is new, and was voted on and
approved this week without any input or
consulting with the various discipline directors.
This move by Tri-County is resulting in
the suspension of the USPSA affiliation. With this recent change,
Tri-County has violated their
agreement with USPSA by enforcing local rules at a USPSA match.
As of Monday the 18th, I
will also be resigning as a discipline director at Tri-County, and any
matches moving forward will not be USPSA activities. Thank you to all
those that have helped this club
produce great matches for a lot of years. It is very much appreciated
and I ask you to please continue to put your energies
into one of the other Section clubs.
I could go on and on, but there is
really no positives that would come out of it. Please continue to come out and
enjoy the best USPSA has to offer at one of the other clubs in the Columbia Cascade Section.
xxxxxxx xxxxxxx
Columbia Cascade Section Coordinator
I have been hearing about this 'recent change' to Tri-County Gun Club (Sherwood, Oregon) range rules for some months. I was appalled by the concept, but the information I received from people who have recently competed at Tri-Co Matches is that pre-match shooter meetings have included careful enumeration of their new Range Rule, and it has not been a major issue to date.
Apparently (and I'm guessing here), the Tri-Co BOD meeting has changed the situation from an 'advisory' to a mandatory ruling.
As I understand it, the "muzzle over the berm" rule is that if a competitor's gun muzzle is perceived by the Range Safety Officer to point over the berm, than that is grounds for what is in effect a Match Disqualification.
There is a lot of information which I do not have and cannot even guess at. I don't know if this rule applies only to competition on the club's "Action Range", for example. What happens if someone on the Muzzle Loader range points a loaded rifle muzzle over 90 degrees from the horizontal? How can they load their rifles without infringing on this rule? Or does it only apply after they have seated their percussion cap? And what if they are shooting a flintlock, which does NOT require a percussion cap and is conceivably "live" as soon as a powder charge is loaded?
There's more than a little of the facetious in the preceding paragraph. I will let it stand, if only to illustrate that I believe the decision of the B.O.D. at Tri-County Gun Club is ill-advised, arbitrary, and short-sighted.
A little background:
I received my initial Certification Training at Tri-Co in 1983. They were the first club in the state to host USPSA/IPSC matches, and the small cadre there sparked establishment of IPSC-style 'action shooting' at other ranges in the state, including Dundee, Albany, Eugene and Bend (where the 2003 and 2004 USPSA National Matches were hosted). Tri-County Gun Club members arranged, organized and hosted both RO and CRO classes, both of which I attended and by dint of both I and my Significant Other .. Sandie .. were certified so that we could contribute our support as Range Officers to several Level III USPSA matches around the country.
I owe a lot to Tri-County Gun Club, and it has hurt me to watch over the past few years as their "Action Shooting" programs have lost ground to the Old School (primarily shotgun sports) in the past few years. That club has successfully battled land developers who tried to curtail the club activities as the small town of Sherwood expanded toward the range. Since the club has been in place for over 50 years (I was a member for several years, while I lived nearby), and many of their members are lawyers who donated their services to battle many legal actions, it has survived against Political Correctness in many forms, successfully.
My best guess is that their membership support has finally failed to prevail against continuing outside legal onslaughts. I have no factual basis for this assumption.
Although I have generally declined to participate in their club matches since 2008, it has not been because I doubted their continuing commitment to provide safe, challenging matches including IPSC, Speed Steel and other action sports. I know how they have struggled to continue their policy of actively supporting all the shooting sports, and I am saddened that they have finally been forced to accede to their opposition.
We're back where we were in 2008, when Barack Obama was first elected and we genuinely feared that he would enact draconian anti-firearms legislation. This is the reason why we're having trouble finding ammunition, firearms and reloading components today ... as we did then..
I received an email lately from a local friend who had written to an ammunition supplier bemoaning the lack of availability. The following is cut from the response which he received; I have not edited the text at all:
Thank you for the question and do we understand it is difficult to obtain ammunition at the moment.
Our
company sells ammunition products to hundreds of distributors,
retailers, and shooting ranges in the United States and these customers
have placed giant orders with every
manufacturer to try and keep product in their inventory. We believe
that the fear of the American people towards President Obama's
administration in their attempt to destroy the 2nd Amendment Rights of
Americans is driving sales of firearms and ammunition
at such a high level that the manufacturers cannot keep up, even though
most companies are operating 24 hours a day and 7 days per week.
Please trust us when we say all of the ammunition companies that we know
of are working day and night to build as much
ammunition as possible. The best way to describe the situation is to
understand that every single customer that we sell to has placed orders
that combined would exceed 2-3 years of production. This was similar to
the sales trend in 2009 after President Obama
was initially elected in 2008. Most people feared that the
administration would come after gun regulation in his first term, but
that didn't happen because the democrats feared that he might not get
re-elected in 2012. Now that he is in his 2nd term, the
gun legislation is very heated and pressing forward at the Federal and
State level, which is causing the increased demand at the consumer
level.
Here
is a letter that was written in one of the industry publications on
2-12-13 by Alan Gottlieb, who is the founder and executive vice
president of the Second Amendment Foundation.
This will give you some perspective on the situation:
Editor's
Note: Today's Op-Ed feature was written by Alan Gottlieb, founder and
executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation.
Following the hysteria generated by gun
prohibitionists in the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy, a nationwide rush
on gun stores began as citizens bought semiautomatic modern sporting
rifles, handguns and ammunition, in effect "making
a political statement" about proposals to ban such firearms. Making
political statements is what the First Amendment is all about. The
so-called "assault rifle" has become a symbol of freedom and the right
of the people to speak out for the entire Bill of
Rights. Banning such firearms, which are in common use today, can no
longer be viewed exclusively as an infringement on the Second Amendment,
but must also be considered an attack on the First Amendment. Many
people now feel that owning a so-called "assault
rifle" without fear of government confiscation defines what it means to
be an American citizen. Their backlash against knee-jerk extremism is a
natural reaction to overreaching government. What should one expect in
response to this heightened rhetoric and
legislative hysteria? Citizens in other countries react differently to
government intrusion into their lives, but Americans are uniquely
independent. Among firearms owners, talk of gun bans and attempts to
limit one's ability to defend himself or herself against
multiple attackers by limiting the number of rounds they can have in a
pistol or rifle magazine turns gun owners into political activists. Sen.
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) did not intend her gun ban proposal to cause
skyrocketing sales of semiautomatic rifles
and pistols, but that's what happened. She must live with the
consequences of her shameless political exploitation of the Sandy Hook
tragedy. President Barack Obama never envisioned the rush to purchase
rifle and pistol magazines, but telling American citizens
they shouldn't have something is like sending a signal they need to
acquire those things immediately. Vice President Joe Biden never
imagined his efforts would result in a tidal wave of new members and
contributions to gun rights organizations, making the
firearms community stronger and more united in opposition to any
assault on the Second Amendment. Freedom of association is also protected
by the First Amendment. Perhaps they should take a day off and visit the
monuments at Lexington and Concord, and reflect on what prompted those
colonists to stand their ground. It was the
first time in American history that the government moved to seize arms
and ammunition from its citizens, and it went rather badly for the
British. Beneath the surface many Americans are convinced that we may be
approaching a point when the true purpose of
the Second Amendment is realized. Underscoring this is a new Pew
Research Center poll that, for the first time, shows a majority (53
percent) of Americans believe the government is a threat to their rights
and freedoms. Exacerbating the situation is a perceived
indifference from the administration toward the rights of firearms
owners who have committed no crime, but are being penalized for the acts
of a few crazy people. It is time to lower the rhetoric and
allow cooler heads to prevail. The demonization of millions of loyal,
law-abiding Americans and the firearms they legally own must cease. If
we are to have a rational dialogue about firearms
and violent crime, we must recognize that the very people who could be
most affected have a First Amendment right to be heard. Recall the words
of Abraham Lincoln, who cautioned us more than 150 years ago that "A
house divided against itself cannot stand."
A half-century before him, Benjamin Franklin taught us that "Those who
would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." Their spirits are calling to us
now.
--Alan Gottlieb, Gottlieb is founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation.
We
hope this helps paint a picture of the massive increased demand for
guns and ammunition at the consumer level. Everyone wants to get
product before the administration passes
new restrictive laws. We will continue to work extremely hard 24/7 to
manufacture ammunition to meet the needs of our customers. We will
never sacrifice quality or safety to improve overall output, but we will
try our best to increase shipments wherever possible.
Thank you once again for your email and we trust that our reply is
sufficient.
Best Regards,
That's the end of the text which I received. I don't have links to any of the comments I've just published, so I cannot confirm their authenticity. I have no other information to provide at this time, and I will not publish the source of the above text. As far as I am concerned, this is a "Guest Commentary". Everything I publish here is copyright as of the date in which it is published (here; February 16, 2013). This does not negate the copyrights of the original authors.
Removing my publisher hat, and donning again my blogger hat .... still copyright. But I think that a lot of people are NOT looking at the way the current administration has succeeded beyond their wild dreams at undermining the confidence of the Public and the businesses of the Republic. This has been accomplishing by our President's continuing reluctance (or inability) to reassure his constituents that America will no undermine the stability of the national business environment, and will not fall into the status of a Police State, where arbitrary edicts become a fact of life and The Rule Of Law has been more-or-less abrogated.
We cannot 'insure domestic tranquility' by arbitrary governmental edicts, nor by the intransigence of our leadership. Is it any wonder that the market is in turmoil, and our citizens are increasingly looking to providing for their own 'common defense' rather than relying on our government?
This is the moment when our Constitution (and our Declaration of Independence) becomes our own best defense.
The Second Amendment was established for the times when we cannot reasonably expect our Federal government to protect and defend us. Now, more than ever, we find ourselves ever more thankful that our Founding Fathers have acknowledged our private rights to look out for ourselves, when our government will not do so.
You've looked over the stage, you know where you're going to do your reloads. You know how many targets there are, and of what type, and .. oh hell, you have got this staged KNOCKED!.
Then the first shot goes all golly-whampus, and the game plan goes out the window. You don't know what to do next, you don't even remember the game plan, because .. you had not expected this!
It don't matter what your plan was, or what the stage looks like. All that matters is that you hear someone screaming "DO-OVER" ... and you realize, it is you.
I'm going to show you a video of that exact same scenario. The shooter is experienced and competent, and when I saw it happen, I thought "Oh gee, tough break; but he'll do just fine as soon as he gets his "Do-Over" strategy.
But it didn't happen. And that's a misery.
Here's how it looked:
Here's the breakdown on the stage performance:
GOT A JAM ON HIS FIRST ROUND. Doesn't matter whether it was a high-primer, round loaded too long or too-short ... the shooter didn't have good ammunition (couldn't be a magazine malfunction) and he had to drop the magazine to make it go away. Good choice. but ..
FORGOT HIS GAME PLAN. We can only assume that the reason why he left the first shooting position was because he forgot that he had to engage three, not just two, targets from there. He probably had walked it through carefully before he shot the stage, but was so distracted from the near-disasterous MALF (Malfunction) that when he rebooted his gun, he rebooted his brain.
FUMBLED HIS RELOAD. This is something which he has probably practiced at home, and it's so thoroughly a part of 'muscle memory' that he doesn't even have to think about it. But .. if he did "think about it", it completely trashed his stage. If you have to 'think', or 'concentrate', you're not competing at 100% of your competence.
STOPPED TO PICK UP, AND LOADED, A DIRTY MAGAZINE. If your magazine hits the ground, you are best off just forgetting about it and loading a new magazine. Chances are that it will pick up dirt and grit (as it obviously did in the demo video), and it won't feed ammunition reliable. And the grit will remain, even if you drop that magazine and grab a new, clean one. The damage has been done, and until you clean your gun you can only expect more jams. (WHY did he pick up his dirty magazine? Probably because he only brought two magazines to the stage, and he had no choice but to risk it. We can be pretty sure that he owned more than two magazines, but he was 'certain' that he wouldn't need more. That decision certainly played a part in Trashing The Stage. Can you say "HUBRIS", childeren? I knew you could.)
QUIT, AND GO HOME MAD. When your chamber is fouled, the best you can do is to quit. Don't try to get more POINTS, because the TIME between each shot is going to trash your stage points anyway. Use the time between now and the next stage to clean your gun, your magazines, and your ammunition.
Lessons Learned:
Carry more ammunition than you expect to need.
Carry more magazines than you expect to need.
When you have a jam, just drop your magazine and grab another. You have extra mags, right?
Never pick up a dropped magazine: it costs time, you run the risk of sweeping yourself, and the magazine and/or ammunition may be dirty. That will foul your gun until you can clean it, your magazine, and your ammunition.
When you've trashed your stage, perhaps the best thing you can do is to quit. It's like the old adage: When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
You may think that the answer is to go to OPEN Division, where you can carry 25-round magazines and you'll likely not have to reload that often. SO ... when you're walking through the stage, you don't need to worry about Ammunition Management.
Wrong!
Ammunition Management is all about not having to make a "Standing Reload", except that it's also about not having to make more reloads than necessary .. if you can't make a reload 'on the move'.
If you are shooting in a class which requires a very low magazine capacity (eg: Production, Single-Stack, Revolver or Limited-10), the basic rule is:
If you're moving, you should be reloading!
Avoiding "Standing Reloads" is much more important .. and it should be the basis of your Game Plan no matter what division you're competing in. Granted, in Limited or OPEN Divisions your magazine capacity may be from ten to thirty rounds (LIMITED Division has a maximum magazine length of 140mm in USPSA/IPSC competition, while OPEN Division allows magazines as long as 170mm). For example, in my Limited gun, I can load either 17 or 18 rounds of 10mm (same diameter as .40 SW) in my 140mm magazines. But in my open guns, I can usually load 25 rounds in my .38 Super (same diameter as 9mm Luger) in my 170mm magazines. Some Open shooters can load more rounds in their Open Gun magazines.
The problem with shooting in Open Division is that one tends to become complacent. You know that you have 'many' rounds in your magazine, and so you tend to equate that with "I have ALL THE ROUNDS I'LL EVER NEED" in your magazine.
The thing is, if you have a 23 round stage (for example) and you're sure you can complete it in 25 rounds or less, you may forget to manage your ammunition. So, if you take an extra shot or two to make up a miss or a weak hit ... you lose the wisdom you had learned while you were shooting in divisions where you had less ammunition in your magazine. Essentially, you forget that you really do NOT have "all the ammunition in the world!"
I don't know why it is, but I can't get radio stations ... even local ones .. as clearly in my home as I can from my car after I've driven a few blocks.
When I decided to discontinue my telephone "land line" service and instead use a cell phone, I couldn't use AOL Online as my IP; so I looked into the ability to use a 'wi-fi' connection. No good; there are towers in my town, but their range extends to within 2 blocks of my home, but no closer; I couldn't use wi-fi connections. I had to go to COMCAST CABLE to get a high-speed internet connection.
And my Cell Phone is similarly problematic: sometimes I hear from friends or family, and they say: "I tried to call you the other day, and you never picked up. Are you mad at me or something? Why are you avoiding my calls?" I have to say ... "gee, the phone was turned on, the ringer was on HIGH, and I had it right in front of me on my desk. It never rang, I have no record of your call. I am not avoiding you!"
(Most of my friends have agreed to believe that I never got the call, if I agree to believe that they tried to call me. That's what friends do.)
I go through washers and dryers every few years; they wear out faster than "Street Slick" tires on a Mopar Racing car.
I've installed LAN setups, twice, to allow internet access from my laptop computer via my my desktop. They failed after a few months. A few times I was able to re-activate them. Eventually, they failed so frequently that I quit trying; now I have a 'gizmo' from Verizon which gives me (anywhere there's a cell tower) phone access to the Internet for my laptop ... which is quite expensive, but it works. So far.
The Electrical Utility in my neighborhood has brown-outs "often" .. during the Winter (I don't know why in Winter, but there it is) it happens on almost a weekly basis. During the rest of the year ... it still occurs about once a month. The power company has replaced the local .. whatchamacallet, the power distribution thingie ... several times. It still happens. My computer dies even though I have an expensive UPS unit inline. My VCR/DVD has to be reset, my clocks have to be reset (which is why I have a LOT of battery powered clocks in my house). I've only had total electrical failure a half-dozen times I've lived here. When I replace a light bulb in my house, I always use a magic marker to record ON THE BULB when I last replaced it. During the winter ... again ... I replace bulbs every two months "sometimes" because they blow out. Not burn out .but blow out with a flash of white light when I turn them on. I have very few bulbs which last more than a year; the exception is my porch light, which is a flourescent 'spriral' bulb. I leave my porch light turned on 24/7/365 because it's cheaper than replacing it so often. All the rest? Sometimes, a light bulb lasts for six months.
I know I've talked about all this before, but not for a couple of years (I don't care to research the last time .. afraid it will kill my computer!) but sometimes I feel like "Joe Bftznicxkt" ... (sp) ... the little guy in the old Superman comic books who always has a dark cloud hanging over his head; if he didn't have bad luck, he wouldn't have "no luck at all".
And lately (in the last 4 or 5 years), I have been suffering from insomnia and some kind of exzema or psoriasis on my hands ... not serious, either; just irritating. I'm still working on that.
The latest thing?
I am writing this article in "normal" (12-point) type-font, but as I compose it looks like 16-point. I have no idea what it's going to look like when I actually publish it, but my preview makes it look like bold type and a different font than I usually use. Oh, yes, and my spell-checker? It's high-lighting words that I know are spelled right; 4 of them in them in this paragraph alone.
So when I tell you that I live in a "Dark Zone"? It's not really whining. It's just a way of saying that ... if I someday just disappear?
Don't be surprised if you hear the faint notes from "The Twilight Zone" when you try to access this blog.
Sometimes when I rant, it helps me to let off steam. Then I can start thinking rationally again.
I know, it's just me. Nobody else has such a warped personality.
After I vented, I spent the next couple of hours comparing response time with two different browsers: Firefox 11 and Explorer 8. I found that it took about 6 minutes to actually read an email, on Explorer; on Firefox, I still wasn't even getting the entire page-load when I wanted to look at my in-basket ... so after 7 minutes I gave up.
I also checked thoroughly on both browsers for the two emails which had been lost; they didn't appear.
And Comcast has a thing with its cable modem. Sometimes, response time on internet access in general becomes untenably long. I first ran into this several years ago, and called my local Comcast office. They suggested that I follow the following procedure:
turn off the cable modem
UNPLUG the modem!
Let it stand for at least 2 minutes (a more recent suggestion on the Comcast "HELP" pages suggested at least 3 minutes)
Plug it back in, turn it back on, push the start button, and wait until all the little indicator lights come on.
I had done this a few times, including last week when THAT was bugging me. I tried that again today, and I found that my internet access times were as fast as I had come to expect except from any URL with the word "Comcast" or XFINITY in it ... recently.
But the email access was still hosed.
Then I found a link to a Comcast "HELP" resource which allows you to "chat with a technician".
I connected, and Priscilla came on the line. She had me 'release' my Explorer session after I had reset it, and then I had to reboot my browser session. When I asked how I would get back to my chat session, she said she would email me the URL but since my problem was that I couldn't reliably get email she asked me for a non-Comcast email address. I replied in a very snide manner that I had foolishly failed to provide myself with any other email resources than Comcast. She agreed to send it to my Comcast email address, and hoped that I could read it.
She did, and I did read the email; so far, so good.
When I rebooted my browser and used the URL to re-initiate the HELP CHAT session, I wasn't talking to Priscilla any more, I was talking to Baby Jane (I swear I'm not making this up!)
Baby Jane worked with me for a while longer, and then suggested that I try sending an email to test the response.
So I sent an email to myself, and it worked. And I was able to read the email. Also the page-list of my inbasket loaded immediately.
Problem solved!
I was so elated, that I even agreed to complete their survey form. I rated "HIGHLY SATISFIED" except for the question about whether I was overall satisfied with COMCAST performance; I churlishly gave it only a "satisfied" rating; I was still fuming over lost emails. (If you've read this blog for long, and especially if I've ever sent an email to you, you're probably aware that I tend to ramble on whether I really have anything to say or not! So I wasn't about to try to recreate the brilliance of those two lost lambs.)
Then I went about my business, and didn't get back online until this evening. Checking my blog comments (via COMCAST EMAIL), I found a comment from a person purporting to be:
Mark Casem
Comcast Corp.
National Customer Operations
We_can_help@cable.comcast.com
I'm not revealing any personal information here; he left his message and contact information in the public COMMENTS section of my blog; you can still see it here.
Well, now I'm feeling a little embarassed. As well I should be.
These people were really nice to me. And helpful, and polite, and professional ... and technically competent. They turned this Grumpy Old Man into Bert Lahr ("The Cowardly Lion" in 'Wizard of Oz') with grace and patience. They never ONCE suggested that it might be my fault, or that I had to update my Explorer from V-8 to V-9. Which was what I had expected.
And I'm not going to delete the post, either. I intend to leave it up both to underline my chagrin, and to provide the context which just might make THIS post understandable.
I am, however, going to leave the comments section in place, and I'll add an UPDATE link to the original post so that anyone who reads it and takes it out of context ... will be able to see that COMCAST may have the occasional technical problem .. but they will not allow it to stand uncorrected.if their customers only use the resources which they HAVE provided.
Thanks, Comcast. You're a better provider than I am a customer.
But I'm still going to create an alternate non-COMCAST email address. Just in case, you understand.
Well, I've been having problems with my IP ... COMCAST.NET ... recently. It takes 'a long time' to send an email. Like ... NEVER!
I composed an email today, which I had to send to DRAFT because Comcast Infinity "SmartMail" won't send it. No reason why, except there's a message popping up which says "the server may be down". It's not the first time I've received that message.
Funny thing, every website that isn't COMCAST works just fine. And so, since it IS my Internet Provider, there's apparently something up.
And I haven't been able to send email off and on for several days. Sometimes it works, sometimes if I just leave the room and go do something else (cook and eat a meal ... you know, something that doesn't take more than an hour or two), when I come back the email has been sent.
A couple of days ago I tried to send an email, and it took so long that I just gave up and went to sleep. When I got up the next morning, the email was gone. I hadn't even been able to send it to the DRAFT file, so it was just lost.
I'm getting pretty sick of this. The ultimate problem is that even if I change my IP from Comcast to ... oh, I don't know ... ANYBODY ELSE! .... all of my online accounts are tied to my Comcast email addresses. Banking, Billing, Amazon, utilities, social websites, games, sports (like USPSA) ... everyone that I contact online knows me by my current IP.
They've got me by the short and curlies, and I don't like feeling so powerless.
Oh, I tried to run a speed test this morning? It failed. I did the 'reboot' procedure, where I not only turn off my cable modem but physically disconnect it for at least 3 minutes. (This is the second time this week that I did it.) Didn't make a bit of difference.
The really funny thing is that ... gee, all of the other websites that I visit) such as Blogger, as you can plainly see) work just fine. There isn't anything wrong with the Internet Connection ... it's just Comcast, itself?
I know there are a lot of people out there who have Comcast for their IP. I'm wondering, is there anyone else who is having trouble with the COMCAST FEATURES, or is it just me?
Just because I'm paranoid, that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
UPDATE: Since I wrote this, I contacted COMCAST Technical Support, and they resolved the problem to my satisfaction. Details available here, and I regret that I made public my dissatisfaction BEFORE I gave them a chance to fix it .. online, real time, and with a very professional "problem solving" approach.
First, what is your definition of "Reasonable" Gun Controls.
Second, what is the political agenda behind that definition?
Taking the second question firsts, there are a LOT of people who think that the word "REASONABLE" means "Highly Restrictive". These are those folks who think that, for example "reasonable" includes Firearms Registration.
Most folks in the NRA are convinced that "Registration equals Confiscation". And yes, there is some history which supports this belief.
The "Keep And Bear Arms" website contains an article which testifies to the 1999 California Confiscation of SKS rifles:
Gun owners in California and Connecticut have discovered
that it really CAN happen here. Advertising has been strong here in San Diego recently,
urging all owners of the SKS "Sporter" to turn them in for a $230 reimbursement
before January 1, 2000. "If you own an SKS Sporter, you can’t sell it and you
can’t shoot it. You MUST turn it in before January 1 or face criminal charges and
confiscation" goes the ad which has been run on local radio stations. This particular problem started with passage of the
Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act in 1989. At that time there were two available
models of the SKS rifle - one with a fixed magazine, and one designed to accept a
detachable magazine, the "Sporter" model. The Roberti-Roos law banned sales of the SKS Sporter
rifle, but owners of the gun were able to keep them so long as they complied with a
background check and had the gun registered. Apparently, most records of long gun sales
were not retained, but the Sporter was treated differently. Ownership was actually
registered, and the records kept. There was additional confusion over the SKS since there
were after-market kits available to convert the unregistered fixed-magazine model to
accept a detachable magazine. In response to the confusion, California passed AB48 which
granted immunity to SKS owners, but also established a buyback program. As an aside, the
buyback pays a higher price than that for which the rifles were originally sold!
So, the folks that don't believe that "Registration equals Confiscation" ... be warned!
In America, that not only CAN happen, but it HAS happened. Learn from it.
We have learned from that lesson, and so it's difficult to believe that "seventy percent of NRA members support 'Reasonable Gun Controls'. Essentially, for political or 'other' (is there an 'other' reason besides political?) reason, the politicians in your state ... or in your country ... WILL confiscate your firearms.
"Pay no attention to what they say, but look closely as what they do!" This is the political wisdom which was imparted to me by a Vietnamese "Boat Person" in the early 1990's. He was speaking about the Communists in Viet Nam at the time, but is there really that much difference?
Here's what 'those people' mean when they speak of 'reasonable gun controls' (From "ThinkProgress.ORG":the folks who provided the terrific quote that started this rant)
In fact, new research
released in July by Republican pollster Frank Luntz for Mayors against
Illegal Guns, finds that gun advocates overwhelmingly support
common-sense measures typically described as “gun control.” These
include:
1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees.
82 percent of non-NRA gun-owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners
support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse
the latter. 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members. 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members. 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to
individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and
older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member
gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are
74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction. 5.Concealed carry permits shouldn’t be given to perpetrators
of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence.
The NRA/non-NRA gun-owner split on these issues is 81 percent and 75
percent in favor of the violent misdemeanors provision and 78 percent/68
percent in favor of the domestic violence restriction.
I'm deliberately not going to 'fisk' this, because on the surface they DO sound "reasonable".
Okay, so maybe I will fisk this just a little bit:
5.Concealed carry permits shouldn’t be given to perpetrators
of violent misdemeanors or individuals arrested for domestic violence. FranklyI'm not sure that this isn't subject to abuse. Having been "arrested" for an "domestic violence" is often nothing more than a disgruntled spouse wishing to make trouble for the partner. An actual accusation is not required; if provided, it need not be supported by evidence or testimony. The obvious assumption is that some man is beating up on his wife, Girlfriend, or "Domestic Partner".
What is NOT obvious is that the alleged incident may prevent someone from free exercise of his civil rights, based on hearsay testimony.
Theiimplicationsof the arrest may be that any firearms owned by the arrested spouse may be confiscated, and perhaps never returned .. depending upon the local laws applicable in such cases, which may vary between jurisdictions.
We need not go into the details of the other four fundaments of the assertion that "NRA Members" agree with the "Violent misdemeanors" clause, because we don't know how that question was posed to the "NRA Members" polled. All we DO know is that words may be misleading. And we also understand that although we as honest citizens may need to be very careful about how we respond to questions from a putatively neutral source, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are feeding us null-value questions.
And we have no input into the manner in which our responses may be evaluated.
Let's look at the OTHER four out of five questions which seem to support this assertion:
1. Requiring criminal background checks on gun owners and gun shop employees.
82 percent of non-NRA gun-owners and 74 percent of NRA gun owners
support the former, and 80 percent and 79 percent, respectively, endorse
the latter. 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. Support ranges from 80 percent among non-NRA gun-owners to 71 percent among NRA members. 3. Mandating that gun-owners tell the police when their gun is stolen. 71 percent non-NRA gun-owners support this measure, as do 64 percent of NRA members. 4. Concealed carry permits should only be restricted to
individuals who have completed a safety training course and are 21 and
older. 84 percent of non-NRA and 74 percent of NRA member
gun-owners support the safety training restriction, and the numbers are
74 percent and 63 percent for the age restriction.
Answers/responses are
(1) and (2) We're Conservatives; of COURSE we're leary of "terrorists" .. depending on your definition. (3) That's a no-brainer: yes, we want people to report it when their guns are stolen. The problem is, we don't always notice that a gun is missing. How often do YOU inventory your firearms collection? And if there is a penalty involved if you don't report it in x-number of days .. are you going to report it LATE? And risk a penalty because you "did the right thing" but your acknowledgement didn't fit their arbitrary time frame?
(4) I think that ANYONE who owns a gun should be encouraged to learn safe gun-handling skills. I do this kind of training all the time. To oppose this concept would be to deny my goal of wanting to train EVERYBODY! On the other hand, this sounds as if failure to meet this too-specific goal might result in punitive measures against people who just want to learn to shoot. I teach people as young as 10 years old, and this would deny them the right to learn safe gun-handling skills during the period when they are most likely to best benefit from the teaching. I have been beaten in competition by young persons too often to accept this limitation without protest. Some people just don't understand that teaching kids to shoot is A Good Thing!
I'm pretty sure that the folks who arbitrarily settled on the "21-year-old" rule had their best interests in heart. But they ignore the fact that some 10-year old kids are more mature than some 21-year-old kids. Not all of them, for sure, but enough of them that we're looking at the potential insertion of round pegs in square holes.
When "The Government" gets involved, they feel constrained to establish arbitrary criterea. That doesn't always match reality.
My take on this is that when we allow The Government to establish standards, they usually except the exceptional people who do not meet their standards by the mere fact of age, gender, or other, criteria. This is a valid "Bureaucratic" standard, but if it did not meet the critera that it be adjusted to fit the circumstances, it's flawed.
So .. speaking only for myself, I do NOT accept the principle that "xx% of NRA members support 'Reasonable Gun Control' Measures". I only accept the principle that a significant percent of NRA members MAY have mis-interpreted the questions, and that the results of the "survey" have been deliberately skewed (mus-interpreted) to meet the pre-determined conclusions which the survey takers have established as the private agenda of the survey takers.
Frankly, I doubt the veracity or interpretation of ANY "survey" which may be conducted by "These People". Their motivation is always suspect, their honor is extremely suspect, and I think that any time they open their mouth you can determine their veracity because they lips are moving. They are notorious congenital liars, and anyone who believes a single word they say is a damned fool!
Well ... not to put too fine a point upon it. That's what *_I_* think! YMMV