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There is nobody so irritating as somebody with less intelligence and more sense than we have. - Don Herold Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane. - Phillip K. Dick In the fight between you and the world, back the world.- Frank Zappa
"Start here, shoot this target twice. Then run over here and shoot this target twice. Re-engage T1 through this port twice, shoot these two targets twice from here, then shoot them again through this port again, then shoot these three targets twice through this port and finish at this port by re-engaging this target twice. Round count: 24 rounds."
Hi, I'm Jerry and I'll be your Range Officer for this state, and also for your Reshoot.
Stage 1: Better Make Sure (CM99-50)
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The designer of this 8-round Comstock Classifier has not been identified. by USPSA.
Stage 2: Stupid Donut
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Music ("Knockin' on Heaven's Door") by Mr. Eric Clapton.
The videos for this and all other stages in this match are available at Jerry the Geek's Video Shooting Gallery.
Mr. Mike McCarter is the designer of this 23-round Comstock stage, which includes 11 IPSC targets and 1 steel target.
Shooter starts in shooting box "A", and can engage all targets from that box and/or Shooting Box "B".
Shooting the Pepper Popper through the 'donut' activates the sliding window, which allows shooter to engage targets T1-T4 (not legally accesible from outside Shooting Box "A".)
Moving downrange through Shooting Box "B", targets T5-T6, T11 - T12 may be engaged.
Stepping on the activator box at the forward lateral wall activates bobbing target T8, as well as a no-shoot penalty target just behind the port (which is not an obstacle for tall competitors.)
Through the port, the shooter may engage moving target T8 as well as static targets T7 and T9. Note that the moving target is repetitively obscured by a steel-plate representing an IPSC target, and is considered "Hard-Cover".
All in all, it's a nifty little Mac McCarter Special stage design. Neat, but not gaudy.
Stage 3: Up And Back
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The videos for this and all other stages in this match are available at Jerry the Geek's Video Shooting Gallery.
Mr. Mike McCarter is the designer of this 22-round Comstock stage, which includes 9 IPSC targets and 4 steel targets.
Shooter starts in the large shooting box, hands are touching a "X-marked" spot on the lateral vision barrier. (Note: original requirement for toes to be touching the vision barrier were deleted due to safety considerations.)
Targets can be engaged from either end of a lateral wall, or from a port in the center. Shooting positions at the wall ends require backward movement to get around the arc of the v-shaped lateral wall to engage targets on the other end of the array. Steel targets are backed by no-shoot penalty targets.
(Click the link to view the Stage design and procedures in PDF format.)
Music will be provided by Mr. Eric Clapton, "Willy and the Hand Jive".
The videos for this (15mb) and all other stages in this match are available at Jerry the Geek's Video Shooting Gallery.
Mr. Mike McCarter is the designer of this 21-round Comstock stage (Originally 'Virginia Count', but changed due to the presence of steel targets), which includes 9 IPSC targets and 3 steel targets.
There are 3 strings:
String 1: starting with hands resting on window sill, pistol unloaded and resting on barrel, on signal load and engage 3 IPSC, 1 PP Free Style.
String2: starting with hands resting on window sill, pistol loaded and resting on barrel, on signal load and engage 3 IPSC, 1 PP Strong Hand Only.
String3: starting with hands resting on window sill, pistol loaded and resting on barrel, on signal load and engage 3 IPSC, 1 PP Weak Hand Only.
(Click the link to view the Stage design and procedures in PDF format.)
Music ("Swing Low, Sweet Chariot") is provided by Mr. Eric Clapton.
The video (10mb) for this stage is available at Jerry the Geek's Video Shooting Gallery.
Mr. Mike McCarter is the designer of this 24-round Comstock stage, which includes 6 IPSC targets and 12 steel targets.
Shooter starts anywhere in the large shooting box, as long as toes are touching a fault line.
Targets can be engaged from either end of a lateral wall, or from a port in the center. Shooting positions at the wall ends allows engagement of targets in front, or at a diagonal to the opposite side of the bay. Targets are placed behind vision barriers so that some targets must be engaged at a diagonal. A plate rack can only be engaged from the port in the center of the lateral wall.
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Please don't assume that ANY of the following comments are intended as a reflection on the members of this forum. I've been a member of this forum since January, 2005, and while I haven't been a regular 'contributing' participant I have enjoyed 'lurking' until the discussion focused on this article which I posted in my own blog.
"No suggestion. Fact. Try and submit a match with it to IPSC (NOT USPSA) for approval. You'll find out pretty quick.My reply was a request for someone -- anyone -- to cite the rules by which IPSC had made this determination.
USPSA picks and chooses which IPSC rules they want to use; so in the US, you're probably GTG."
I suggested that the source was not as definitive as a citation to the rule book, and subsequent responses indicated that they were not acceptable in Level III matches. Eventually someone stated:
There was a big discussion about this on the IPSC World forum. Vince Pinto had said that any L3 with a Texas Star would not be sanctioned.
I just received the word from our section coordinator. No t-star in any match above level 1 ( He just received the official notification)So the t-star must be pulled from the match.
I'll double check my email when I get to work in the morning...but I'm pretty sure Level 1's would be out as well (any IPSC sanctioned match)At this point (five days after the original post), nobody has been able to cite a rule which would ban the Texas Star (let alone the Evil Oregon Star) from IPSC competition.
When looking through some stage designes (sic)I have often come accross (sic) a target called Texas star. As I have never seen it in our region I would like to know something more about it.For example what is it like,how does it react when hit,is it still or moving,how can I construct such one ?
I understand that Texas Stars can be great fun to shoot.Source: Neil Beverly - 4 Apr, 2006
However, they are unlikely to be approved for IPSC matches because they are more of a gimmick than a true IPSC "practical" target.
Certainly as the IPSC Shotgun Course Reviewer I wouldn't approve a stage that included a Texas Star.
If you want want a Texas Star for fun shoots at your club I'm sure you will get some useful feedback from other members.
I urge you, especially being a new Region, not to bother spending time and money making a Texas Star. Some people might think it's fun to shoot but, as Neil Beverley has already cautioned, you won't get IPSC Level III or higher sanctioning for any match which includes a Texas Star, because it's considered to be a "carnival" prop.Vince Pinto, 6 APR 2006, responding to an IPSC member from Bulgaria
I can assure you swingers and gravity turners are found at Level III + Matches .. WSXIV had an assortment of movers, single swingers, double swingers, gravity turners ..Kevin, 7 Apr., 2006
I shot a Level III Match in Feb, which had a total of 24 Swingers in 12 stages ..
In the context of an IPSC Stage, what does the Texas Star simulate ?
Hey Kevin,Source: Vince Pinto, 7 Apr. 2006
Did you notice how the Texas Star is being defended by ....... Texans?
Of course they're also responsible for the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, so I guess they're not all crazy! Must only be the ones from Austin & Houston?
The question put before this bunch of stalwart and true gentleman and gentlewomen is this:Source: Alex, 20 APR 2006
What makes a legal target array?
In another thread the question was raised, but not answered beyond the famous American politician quote about pornography ("...I will know it when I see it").
Some think that a target array has to be "practical" (vice "carnival") to be legal. However, there is no definition of "practical" (or "carnival") target arrays to be found in the rule book. Either the one half the world's shooters use, or the amended one that the other half of the world's shooters use (sic)
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I thought Alex had a good question before his post was cut to 1/10 of what he wrote.
My reply to this thread is below as this issue has been bubbling for a while and I am no nearer understanding it.
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I think I am just as confused as some others here to be honest about what EXACTLY is an IPSC suitable way of thinking, as compared to one that would not be in the 'SPIRIT' of IPSC. This is not written down or taught anywhere. We hear from our well informed and experianced (sic) Moderators as to their views, but without this being documented its very hard trying to gauge the mentality or the methodology behind this ethos.
On one hand IPSC is trying to distance itself away from non PC self defence scenarios but on the other hand phrases are used where we are trying to still use this basis: hence I am confused.
The thread was closed because the IPSC Secretary stated the official IPSC policy in respect of the Texas Star, namely that proposing use of such a target will cause Level III or higher sanctioning to be denied, and a further statement was made explaining the procedure necessary for that policy to be reversed.Source: Vince Pinto, 11 APR 2006
If you (or anybody else, for that matter) think the subject target is so fascinating, you're free to use it to your heart's content, but IPSC is also free to deny any application for Level III sanctioning. By the same token, if you want to host a match requiring that blackpowder (sic) guns be used exclusively, you're also free to do so, but that match will also be denied IPSC sanctioning.
Bottom line: Your "rights" do not trump IPSC's "rights".